Sunday 19 June 2011

The 'apostasy' elephant in the room

'A person must convert to Islam before he or she can marry a Muslim. Why not allow the convert to revert when the marriage ends?'

Mufti: Many new converts want out of Islam

Sarawakian_3ff9: That's the problem when people are forced to convert, either through marriage or for other reasons. Most who converted through their own conviction are unlikely to revert.

When a marriage fails, the converted spouse is likely to opt out due to the prospect of future marriage or to go back to their original religion, meaning that they never actually leave their previous religion.

Other countries don't have such problem, only Malaysia.

Ruben: "Syariah Court received 686 applications to renounce Islam between 2000 and 2010."

That's a small number. I wonder why all the fuss. In any religion, there will be people who get disillusioned with their faith and thus like to convert.

DontPlayGod: The Islamic law says that a person must convert to Islam before he or she can marry a Muslim. So why not allow that convert to revert to his or her former religion when the marriage ended?

After all, the convert knows nothing about Islam and is not interested in it. So why insist that he or she to remain as a Muslim? Why keep a person tied to a religion which he or she doesn't believe in?

Alan Goh: Converting to Islam is easy but coming out of it is very difficult. Why is it so when religion is something personal between man and woman and God. True faith must come from the heart.

Practice moderation like what we see in Indonesia and Singapore. The Muslims there are not bogged down with petty issues like the use of 'Allah' and are very tolerant with other religions, which in return, gain respect from Christians, Buddhists and Hindus.

Just look at oneself in the mirror - if you are not clean in the inside, then do not cast the first stone. This is a personal opinion is from a sinful and humble layman who leave others to decide their own faith as all religion preaches goodness, mercy and compassion.

Henry Hock: Do an honest survey, you will find that some convert to Islam because they want to get married and get goverment contracts and promotions. Do they really understand the theology behind it?

Let there be true freedom of religion, otherwise you are making a mockery out of Allah because He only wants willing and sincere converts (including those born in Muslim families) who believes in Him with all their hearts, minds, soul and might. You agree, mufti?

Ksn: Let them go. Why force anyone to stay in any religion if they have no faith in the religion. There is no reason to fuss about it. Those remaining will be those with strong convictions and true to the religion.

Disgusted: The truth is 80 percent of the people who 'convert' to Islam are forced to do so not out of the heart.

A majority of them convert because they have fallen in love with a Muslim and want to get married. Some for economic reasons to get the privileges accorded to Muslims economically as well as to get instant bumiputera status.

There are some who are conned or coerced as is happening to some Orang Asli, and those in East Malaysia where children who do not have a definite religion specified in their birth certificate, and are later assigned as Muslims when they enter school. In some government-run institutions like orphanages and welfare homes, the same thing is done.

As long as this sort of conversion takes place to boost the numbers for political reasons, there will be no sincerity in the hearts of these people. All conversion must be from the heart, not otherwise. I know of many who were forced to convert because of marriage, and have since fled to Singapore and Australia.

Anonymous_403c: I believe Islam is a great religion that teaches righteousness. However, the way it is being abused and misused by many Muslims frightens the non-Muslims. You get the impression that the religion is violent, unforgiving and obsessed with sex.

Fairnessforall: Many covert for dubious reasons and not for the love of Islam. There are men who just want out of a marriage and do not want to pay alimony so he converts to escape his responsibility.

Then there are those who convert just to marry a Muslim as our country does not allow a non-Muslim to marry a Muslim without converting. So most converts are Muslim on paper, but they are not Muslim in practice as I know many Muslim converts who still eat port, go to temples, and do everything that is not allowed in Islam.

So it is the fault of the Islamic authorities for forcing these people to convert and also for making it so easy for an individual to escape his responsibilities by converting. Apparently, they are interested in quantity, not quality.

What's the point of having fake Muslims? The authorities should come up with strict guidelines for conversion, and it should not allow a person to escape his responsibilities by converting.

Anonymous: I am a forced Muslim. I signed a form, which noted, that I was signing the form out of free will, and not forced. While my heart was shouting 'sign', my brain was shouting 'do not sign'.

Now, I am happily married for 10 years, and in love with my wife and kids. Religion? What religion?

Keturunan Malaysia: You can beat the life out of a body, but you cannot beat what he/she believes in out of his/her heart and mind. No one bothers if you believe in Buddhism (my religion). It is as easy and as simple as that. It is, and shall always be, between you and God.

Malaysiasakit: Like they say in the song 'Hotel California' - You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.

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