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People
should not be compelled to adopt a particular religion and this should
also apply to Malays, says Lembah Pantai MP Nurul Izzah Anwar.
"When you ask me, there is no compulsion in religion... how can anyone say sorry, this (religious freedom) only applies to non-Malays, it has to apply equally." she said.
She was speaking at a forum on "Islamic State: Which version; Who's responsibility?" in Subang Jaya this morning.
The Lembah Pantai MP was responding to a question from the floor on whether Malays should have religious freedom like non-Malays.
"Malay" is defined under Section 160(2) of the federal constitution as a person who professes Islam, habitually speaks the Malay language and conforms to Malay customs.
Ultimately, she said, what should be sought is "quality" where Muslims' faith is strong.
"Even me, being schooled in Assunta (secondary school) with a huge cross in the hall and an active singing Catholic society did not influence me," she said.
However, Nurul Izzah stopped short of saying that Malays should be legally granted religious freedom, saying: "I am, of course, tied to the prevailing views."
To a question on the rights of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transexual (LGBT) community, Nurul Izzah conceded that as Muslims and even for Catholics, there were limitations.
However, she stressed that the principle for Pakatan Rakyat was that the community should not be victimised.
'Muslims' freedom ignored'
Human
rights lawyer, Malik Imtiaz, on his part, noted that there had been a
"back door attempt" to revise the country into an Islamic state with a
single interpretation with Muslims being the biggest victims from this
insidious move.
"We talk about how non-Muslims are affected by the so-called dominance but tend to forget that the biggest victims of this discussion are the Muslims because everyone recognises the freedom of non-Muslims but people don't seem to talk about the freedom of Muslims.
"The point is diversity is as important for Muslims as it is for everyone else.
"No one stops (a Catholic) from going to a Catholic or Protestant church but for the state, there is only one version of Islam... if you don't believe this kind of Islam, you are a deviationist," he said.
As such, Malik said what had been creating was a monolithic Islam that was being manipulated for political purpose and turned into tool to either woo or intimidate voters.
"When you ask me, there is no compulsion in religion... how can anyone say sorry, this (religious freedom) only applies to non-Malays, it has to apply equally." she said.
She was speaking at a forum on "Islamic State: Which version; Who's responsibility?" in Subang Jaya this morning.The Lembah Pantai MP was responding to a question from the floor on whether Malays should have religious freedom like non-Malays.
"Malay" is defined under Section 160(2) of the federal constitution as a person who professes Islam, habitually speaks the Malay language and conforms to Malay customs.
Ultimately, she said, what should be sought is "quality" where Muslims' faith is strong.
"Even me, being schooled in Assunta (secondary school) with a huge cross in the hall and an active singing Catholic society did not influence me," she said.
However, Nurul Izzah stopped short of saying that Malays should be legally granted religious freedom, saying: "I am, of course, tied to the prevailing views."
To a question on the rights of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transexual (LGBT) community, Nurul Izzah conceded that as Muslims and even for Catholics, there were limitations.
However, she stressed that the principle for Pakatan Rakyat was that the community should not be victimised.
'Muslims' freedom ignored'
Human
rights lawyer, Malik Imtiaz, on his part, noted that there had been a
"back door attempt" to revise the country into an Islamic state with a
single interpretation with Muslims being the biggest victims from this
insidious move."We talk about how non-Muslims are affected by the so-called dominance but tend to forget that the biggest victims of this discussion are the Muslims because everyone recognises the freedom of non-Muslims but people don't seem to talk about the freedom of Muslims.
"The point is diversity is as important for Muslims as it is for everyone else.
"No one stops (a Catholic) from going to a Catholic or Protestant church but for the state, there is only one version of Islam... if you don't believe this kind of Islam, you are a deviationist," he said.
As such, Malik said what had been creating was a monolithic Islam that was being manipulated for political purpose and turned into tool to either woo or intimidate voters.
That's really quite a viewpoint there. But for the record, her father once wanted to eliminate all missionary schools and ban Christmas celebrations. In another function sponsored by PAS, he also promised to secure Islamic hudud law to be regulated if they wrest control of Putrajaya.
ReplyDeleteI am concerned if her views are merely a facade for drumming support from Christians in the upcoming election. They might not have the power to realize the views they present.
Tried to read about See Yee Lin in Malaysiakini or Malaysian Insider but nothing can be found. That woman got no rights according to both media.
ReplyDelete"monolithic Islam that was being manipulated for political purpose and turned into tool to either woo or intimidate voters"
ReplyDeleteThat fault largely lies on PAS. And to think, they actually branded 'Islam' as their political party. They have used it as a tool to woo and intimidate voters all this time - scaring Malays to not vote 'infidels' and 'infidelistic, secular Malays'. Why not a Christian party, then?
The current ruling govt does not impose Islam Taliban-style, like in PAS' view of Hudud. Their draconian tenet of Islam, unluckily, aligned with the typical 'Muslim extremist' post-9/11 archetype which alienates non Muslims. If their brand of Islamic state is upheld, apostates should be killed. The current so-called 'Islamic' government of Malaysia does not approve killings or any kind of mercy killings.
apostates only be killed if they curse Islam and Muslims, if they're not, they'll live their live as they want. that's how the things work.
ReplyDeleteas of chopping off your hands, that is the last and most extreme decision and only upheld should the wrongdoers did that for no valid reason (poor, no food, etc)
shud learn how it's done first before giving comments and send out the false info to others..
bear in mind that the blogger and its readers are Xtians. we don't know about Islam very much. Y dont u write your own blog, 'Ustaz'?
DeleteValid or invalid, chopping off hands are still inhuman. Even though he is guilty and he'll no longer steal again after hands are chopped, how can he perform other things that's not stealing? How will he eat, or groom, or pick up things?
DeleteAnonymous said...
DeleteDo you as a christian find this inhuman as well,
Homosexual
If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death.
Leviticus 18-20 (New King James Version)
Adultery
"And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death." -- Leviticus 20:10
Leviticus 21:9 ESV
And the daughter of any priest, if she profanes herself by whoring, profanes her father; she shall be burned with fire.
Stealing
"If a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep. ... If he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft." -- Exodus 22:1-3
6 November 2012 20:07
fuck you all
ReplyDeleteI wish you peace, by the grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. He will save you from profanity and ill manner.
DeleteNot gonna elaborate but please before voicing out your opinion do your revision on hudud first. here is a link of article on hudud http://www.islamic-study.org/islamic_penal_law.htm. Being christian doesn't mean you have to be ignorant. May all of you see the truth.
ReplyDeleteChopping of hand is so inhuman the victims normally would choose to settle things out of court. There is forgiveness on the part of the victims and relief on the part of the thieves. But the law must be there. The law sent to the prophets overruled some shit lord reid wrote.
ReplyDeleteAnd hudud apply to all who live in the nation .. its dosent care who you are or what ur belief ... when a country under hudud law , this may apply to all of the resident of the nation ...as an example in saudi arabia ...a country with hudud law ... even chinese guy been beheading in the public bcoz of breaking the law of hudud
ReplyDeleteso if any muslim want to change their relegion,the death penalty apply(hudud law)
ReplyDeleteLife is like you're making a computer program...there are a lot of end if, but it is all depend on which end if you choose, if you choose the right selection, you may reach your final destination faster than you ever think.
ReplyDeleteSo being a Muslim, we proud that Islam is our religion and nothing in between can change our guide to Allah.
We do strongly feel that anything that came from Allah are all true....even Hudud law and I think the non-muslim must start to accept that Hudud law is a law of Allah. Probably, the non-muslim may need to get a proper explanation from the Islamic Association rather than to be afraid with the hudud law.